diff --git a/app/db_sql.py b/app/db_sql.py
index aeb50a5..f62729e 100644
--- a/app/db_sql.py
+++ b/app/db_sql.py
@@ -1024,4 +1024,38 @@ def lookup_id_random_pop(obj_data:dict):
         obj_data.pop('from_object_id_random')
 
     return obj_data
-# ### END ### API DB SQL ### lookup_id_random_pop() ###
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+# ### END ### API DB SQL ### lookup_id_random_pop() ###
+
+
+
+# ### BEGIN ### API DB SQL Methods ### get_account_id_w_for_type_id() ###
+# Updated 2021-08-24
+def get_account_id_w_for_type_id(
+        for_type: str,
+        for_id: int|str,
+        ) -> bool|int|None:
+    log.setLevel(logging.WARNING) # DEBUG, INFO, WARNING, ERROR, EXCEPTION, CRITICAL
+    log.debug(locals())
+
+    if for_id := redis_lookup_id_random(record_id_random=for_id, table_name=for_type): pass
+    else: return False
+
+    data = {}
+    data['for_type'] = for_type
+    data['for_id'] = for_id
+
+    sql = f"""
+        SELECT `for`.id AS 'for_id', `for`.id_random AS 'for_id_random', `for`.account_id AS account_id
+        FROM :for_type AS `for`
+        WHERE `for`.id = :for_id
+        LIMIT 1;
+        """
+
+    log.setLevel(logging.WARNING) # DEBUG, INFO, WARNING, ERROR, EXCEPTION, CRITICAL
+    if for_data_result := sql_select(data=data, sql=sql):
+        log.setLevel(logging.WARNING) # DEBUG, INFO, WARNING, ERROR, EXCEPTION, CRITICAL
+        log.debug(for_data_result)
+        if account_id := for_data_result.get('account_id', None): return account_id
+        else: return False
+    else: return None
+# ### END ### API DB SQL Methods ### get_account_id_w_for_type_id() ###
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diff --git a/app/methods/contact_methods.py b/app/methods/contact_methods.py
index c4b6f5e..c436c1e 100644
--- a/app/methods/contact_methods.py
+++ b/app/methods/contact_methods.py
@@ -4,10 +4,10 @@ import datetime
 from typing import Dict, List, Optional, Set, Union
 from pydantic import BaseModel, EmailStr, Field, PrivateAttr, ValidationError, validator
 
-from app.db_sql import redis_lookup_id_random, sql_insert, sql_select, sql_update
+from app.db_sql import get_account_id_w_for_type_id, redis_lookup_id_random, sql_insert, sql_select, sql_update
 from app.lib_general import log, logging
 
-from app.methods.address_methods import create_address_obj, create_update_address_obj, update_address_obj
+from app.methods.address_methods import create_address_obj, create_update_address_obj, create_update_address_obj_v4, update_address_obj
 
 from app.models.common_field_schema import default_num_bytes
 from app.models.contact_models import Contact_Base
@@ -146,6 +146,165 @@ def get_account_id_w_contact_id(
 # ### END ### API Contact Methods ### get_account_id_w_contact_id() ###
 
 
+
+
+
+
+# ### BEGIN ### API Contact Methods ### create_update_contact_obj_v4() ###
+# NOTE: This will create a contact and then also create a linked address if contact_obj.address data is passed.
+# NOTE: In the future it should be required that account_id, for_type, and for_id should be passed separately. account_id might not be required *if* it can be looked up based on for_type and for_id.
+# Rewrite and updated 2021-08-25
+def create_update_contact_obj_v4(
+        contact_dict_obj: Contact_Base|dict,
+        contact_id: int|str = None,
+        account_id: int|str = None,
+        for_type: str = None,
+        for_id: int|str = None,
+        create_sub_obj: bool = False,
+        fail_any: bool = False, # Fail if any thing goes wrong for sub objects
+        return_outline: bool = False,
+        ) -> int|bool:
+    log.setLevel(logging.DEBUG) # DEBUG, INFO, WARNING, ERROR, EXCEPTION, CRITICAL
+    log.debug(locals())
+
+    log.info('Checking requirements...')
+    if contact_id:
+        log.info(f'Contact ID passed. Update existing Contact. Contact ID: {contact_id}')
+
+        if contact_id := redis_lookup_id_random(record_id_random=contact_id, table_name='contact'): pass
+        else:
+            log.error('Contact ID passed but is invalid. Failed requirement.')
+            return False
+
+        if account_id := redis_lookup_id_random(record_id_random=account_id, table_name='account'): pass
+        else:
+            log.error('Missing or invalid Account ID passed. Not required. Ignoring.')
+            log.info(f'Account ID: {account_id}')
+
+            log.info('Attempting to get Account ID from related object.')
+            if account_id := get_account_id_w_for_type_id(for_type='contact', for_id=contact_id): pass
+            else:
+                log.error('Unable to get Account ID from related object.')
+                False
+
+        if for_id := redis_lookup_id_random(record_id_random=for_id, table_name=for_type): pass
+        else:
+            log.error('Missing or invalid For Type and For ID ID passed. Not required. Ignoring.')
+            log.info(f'For Type: {for_type} and For ID: {for_id}')
+    else:
+        log.info('No Contact ID passed. Create new Contact. Required: Account ID, For Type, For ID')
+
+        if for_id := redis_lookup_id_random(record_id_random=for_id, table_name=for_type): pass
+        else:
+            log.error('Missing or invalid For Type and For ID ID passed. Failed requirement.')
+            log.info(f'For Type: {for_type} and For ID: {for_id}')
+            return False
+
+        if account_id := redis_lookup_id_random(record_id_random=account_id, table_name='account'): pass
+        else:
+            log.error('Missing or invalid Account ID passed. Failed requirement.')
+            log.info(f'Account ID: {account_id}')
+            if for_type and for_id:
+                log.info('Attempting to get Account ID from related object.')
+                if account_id := get_account_id_w_for_type_id(for_type=for_type, for_id=for_id): pass
+                else:
+                    log.error('Unable to get Account ID from related object.')
+                    False
+            else:
+                return False
+
+    log.debug(type(contact_dict_obj))
+    if isinstance(contact_dict_obj, dict):
+        contact_dict = contact_dict_obj
+        if contact_id:
+            contact_dict['contact_id'] = contact_id
+        if account_id:
+            contact_dict['account_id'] = account_id
+        if for_type:
+            contact_dict['for_type'] = for_type
+        if for_id:
+            contact_dict['for_id'] = for_id
+        try:
+            contact_obj = Contact_Base(**contact_dict)
+            log.setLevel(logging.DEBUG) # DEBUG, INFO, WARNING, ERROR, EXCEPTION, CRITICAL
+            log.debug(contact_obj)
+        except ValidationError as e:
+            log.error(e.json())
+            return False
+    else:
+        contact_obj = contact_dict_obj
+        if contact_id:
+            # NOTE: Can't update the ID alias if it was never set.
+            contact_obj.id = contact_id
+        if account_id:
+            contact_obj.account_id = account_id
+        if for_type:
+            contact_obj.for_type = for_type
+        if for_id:
+            contact_obj.for_id = for_id
+
+        contact_dict = contact_obj.dict(by_alias=False, exclude_defaults=False, exclude_unset=True, exclude={'address', 'created_on', 'updated_on'})
+
+    if contact_id:
+        if contact_dict_up_result := sql_update(data=contact_dict, table_name='contact', rm_id_random=True): pass
+        else:
+            log.warning(f'Contact not updated. Contact ID: {contact_id}')
+            log.debug(contact_dict_up_result)
+            return False
+        log.debug(contact_dict_up_result)
+    else:
+        if contact_dict_in_result := sql_insert(data=contact_dict, table_name='contact', rm_id_random=True, id_random_length=8): pass
+        else:
+            log.warning(f'Contact not created.')
+            log.debug(contact_dict_in_result)
+            return False
+        log.debug(contact_dict_in_result)
+
+        contact_id = contact_dict_in_result
+
+    contact_outline = {}
+    contact_outline['contact_id'] = contact_id
+
+    # NOTE: Use object model version because of better type checking and validations
+    if contact_obj.address:
+        contact_outline['address_id'] = None
+        address_obj = contact_obj.address
+        if address_id := contact_obj.address_id: pass
+        else: address_id = None
+        address_obj.id
+        address_obj.for_type = 'contact'
+        address_obj.for_id = contact_id
+        create_update_address_obj_result = create_update_address_obj_v4(
+                address_dict_obj = address_obj,
+                address_id = address_id,
+                account_id = account_id,
+                for_type = 'contact',
+                for_id = contact_id,
+                fail_any = fail_any,
+                return_outline = return_outline,
+                )
+        if isinstance(create_update_address_obj_result, int):
+            address_id = create_update_address_obj_result
+        elif create_update_address_obj_result == True: pass
+        else:
+            log.warning(f'Create or Update failed while trying create_update_address_obj_v4(): {create_update_address_obj_result}')
+            address_id = None
+
+        contact_outline['address_id'] = address_id
+
+    if return_outline:
+        log.debug(f'Returning the Contact Outline: {contact_outline}')
+        return contact_outline
+    else:
+        log.debug(f'Returning the Contact ID: {contact_id}')
+        return contact_id
+# ### END ### API Contact Methods ### create_update_contact_obj_v4() ###
+
+
+
+
+
+
 # ### BEGIN ### API Contact Methods ### create_contact_obj() ###
 # NOTE: This will create a contact and then also create a linked address if contact_obj.address data is passed.
 # NOTE: In the future it should be required that account_id, for_type, and for_id should be passed separately. account_id might not be required *if* it can be looked up based on for_type and for_id.
diff --git a/app/routers/contact.py b/app/routers/contact.py
index d1fe682..26e50e4 100644
--- a/app/routers/contact.py
+++ b/app/routers/contact.py
@@ -5,11 +5,11 @@ from typing import Dict, List, Optional, Set, Union
 
 from app.lib_general import log, logging
 from app.config import settings
-from app.db_sql import sql_insert, sql_update, sql_insert_or_update, sql_select, sql_delete, redis_lookup_id_random
+from app.db_sql import get_id_random, sql_insert, sql_update, sql_insert_or_update, sql_select, sql_delete, redis_lookup_id_random
 
 from app.routers.api_crud import delete_obj_template, get_obj_template, get_obj_li_template, patch_obj_template, post_obj_template
 
-from app.methods.contact_methods import load_contact_obj, update_contact_obj
+from app.methods.contact_methods import create_update_contact_obj_v4, load_contact_obj, update_contact_obj
 
 from app.models.contact_models import Contact_Base
 from app.models.response_models import *
@@ -70,6 +70,110 @@ async def patch_contact_obj(
     return result
 
 
+# ### BEGIN ### API Contact ### post_contact_obj_new_v4() ###
+# Updated 2021-08-25
+@router.post('/new_v4', response_model=Resp_Body_Base)
+async def post_contact_obj_new_v4(
+        contact_obj: Contact_Base,
+        for_type: str = None,
+        for_id: str = None,
+        create_sub_obj: bool = False,
+        fail_any: bool = True, # Fail if any thing goes wrong for sub objects
+        x_account_id: str = Header(...),
+        return_obj: bool = True,
+        inc_address: bool = False,
+        by_alias: bool = True,
+        exclude_unset: bool = True,
+        response: Response = Response,
+        ):
+    log.setLevel(logging.WARNING) # DEBUG, INFO, WARNING, ERROR, EXCEPTION, CRITICAL
+    log.debug(locals())
+
+    # There should probably be a check for the account ID before calling the create update function?
+    if create_update_contact_obj_result := create_update_contact_obj_v4(
+            contact_dict_obj = contact_obj,
+            contact_id = None,
+            account_id = x_account_id,
+            for_type = for_type,
+            for_id = for_id,
+            create_sub_obj = create_sub_obj,
+            fail_any = fail_any,
+            return_outline = False,
+            ): pass
+    else: return mk_resp(data=False, status_code=400, response=response, status_message='The contact was not created. Check the field names and data types.')
+
+    if isinstance(create_update_contact_obj_result, int):
+        contact_id = create_update_contact_obj_result
+        if return_obj:
+            if load_contact_obj_result := load_contact_obj(contact_id=contact_id, inc_address=inc_address):
+                data = load_contact_obj_result
+            else:
+                data = False
+        else:
+            contact_id = create_update_contact_obj_result
+            contact_id_random = get_id_random(record_id=contact_id, table_name='contact')
+            data = {}
+            data['contact_id'] = contact_id
+            data['contact_id_random'] = contact_id_random
+        return mk_resp(data=data, response=response, status_message='The contact was created.')
+    else:
+        return mk_resp(data=False, status_code=400, response=response, status_message='The result from trying to create an contact was unexpected.')
+# ### BEGIN ### API Contact ### post_contact_obj_new_v4() ###
+
+
+# ### BEGIN ### API Contact ### patch_contact_obj_exist_v4() ###
+# Updated 2021-08-25
+@router.patch('/{contact_id}/exist_v4', response_model=Resp_Body_Base)
+async def patch_contact_obj_exist_v4(
+        contact_obj: Contact_Base,
+        contact_id: str = Query(..., min_length=11, max_length=22),
+        for_type: str = None,
+        for_id: str = None,
+        create_sub_obj: bool = False,
+        fail_any: bool = True, # Fail if any thing goes wrong for sub objects
+        x_account_id: Optional[str] = Header(..., ),
+        return_obj: Optional[bool] = True,
+        inc_address: bool = False,
+        by_alias: Optional[bool] = True,
+        exclude_unset: Optional[bool] = True,
+        exclude_none: Optional[bool] = True,
+        response: Response = Response,
+        ):
+    log.setLevel(logging.WARNING) # DEBUG, INFO, WARNING, ERROR, EXCEPTION, CRITICAL
+    log.debug(locals())
+
+    if contact_id := redis_lookup_id_random(record_id_random=contact_id, table_name='contact'): pass
+    else: return mk_resp(data=None, status_code=404)
+
+    if update_contact_obj_result := create_update_contact_obj_v4(
+            contact_dict_obj = contact_obj,
+            contact_id = contact_obj.contact_id,
+            account_id = x_account_id,
+            for_type = for_type,
+            for_id = for_id,
+            create_sub_obj = create_sub_obj,
+            fail_any = fail_any,
+            return_outline = False,
+            ): pass
+    else: return mk_resp(data=False, status_code=400, response=response, status_message='The contact was not created. Check the field names and data types.')
+
+    if update_contact_obj_result:
+        if return_obj:
+            if load_contact_obj_result := load_contact_obj(contact_id=contact_id, inc_address=inc_address):
+                data = load_contact_obj_result
+            else:
+                data = False
+        else:
+            contact_id_random = get_id_random(record_id=contact_id, table_name='contact')
+            data = {}
+            data['contact_id'] = contact_id
+            data['contact_id_random'] = contact_id_random
+        return mk_resp(data=data, response=response, status_message='The contact was created.')
+    else:
+        return mk_resp(data=False, status_code=400, response=response, status_message='The result from trying to create an contact was unexpected.')
+# ### END ### API Contact ### patch_contact_obj_exist_v4() ###
+
+
 # ### BEGIN ### API Contact ### patch_contact_json() ###
 @router.patch('/{contact_id}/json', response_model=Resp_Body_Base)
 async def patch_contact_json(